The Wealthy Barber Podcast
The Wealthy Barber Podcast is Canada’s go-to source for approachable, entertaining, and free financial education. Hosted by none other than David Chilton—former Dragon on CBC’s ”Dragons’ Den” and the best-selling author of ”The Wealthy Barber” and ”The Wealthy Barber Returns”—this podcast is here to help Canadians manage their money better. Much better. Dave Chilton has spent over 35 years demystifying personal finance, offering understandable, unbiased, and actionable advice that has empowered millions of Canadians to achieve their financial goals. Now, he’s bringing that same wisdom to your favourite podcasting platforms, with regular episodes designed to make personal finance simple, relatable, and yes, even entertaining. Episodes of The Wealthy Barber Podcast features Dave in conversation with expert guests from across the spectrum of Canadian personal finance. From investing and real estate to taxes, RESPs, and even money psychology, no topic is off-limits. Plus, don’t miss our special “Office Hours” episodes, where Dave answers real questions from audience members, delivering informed, balanced, and sometimes downright funny advice. Follow for Canadian personal finance made simple.
Episodes

4 days ago
4 days ago
Our guest this episode is Winnipeg Jets star Mark Scheifele! Mark was given a copy of “The Wealthy Barber” early in his career and it still influences the way he manages his finances today.
In this 15ish minute episode, Dave and Mark chat about Mark’s experience playing the NHL, what he likes to spend his money on, his approach to investing and, most importantly, Mark’s role on Dave’s fantasy hockey team.
Enjoy this quick episode with NHL star Mark Scheifele!
Show Notes
(00:00) Intro & Disclaimer
(00:55) Intro to Mark Scheifele
(01:26) Mark and the Winnipeg Jets' Great Year
(04:01) Dave's Fantasy Hockey Team
(04:41) When Mark First Read "The Wealthy Barber”
(06:00) What Does Mark Like to Spend Money On?
(07:10) The Parallels Between Hockey and Golf
(09:45) How Exciting Would it Be to Win the Stanley Cup in Winnipeg?
(10:25) Mark's Investing Approach
(11:59) Playing and Living in Winnipeg
(13:04) Conclusion

Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
In our very first 15ish-minute episode, we cover a big question: TFSAs or RRSPs? To help answer it, we’ve got Mark McGrath—Associate Portfolio Manager at PWL Capital and co-host of the “Rational Reminder” podcast—who’s spent plenty of time looking at all of the pros and cons.
In this podcast, Mark and Dave break down key points including why RRSPs get a bad rap (but shouldn’t), how RRSP withdrawals can actually be tax-efficient and why a TFSA’s flexibility isn’t always an advantage. All that, and more, in a fast-paced, insight-packed episode.
Don’t miss this one—20 minutes could save you thousands in retirement savings!
Show Notes
(00:00) Intro & Disclaimer
(00:55) Intro to Mark McGrath
(02:27) TFSAs vs. RRSPs
(05:19) Comparing Tax on TFSAs vs. RRSPs
(09:09) Why RRSP Withdrawals Can Often Be At a Lower Tax Rate
(14:53) What if The Government Raises Taxes in the Future?
(17:31) How the Canada Child Benefit (CCB) Changes the Math
(18:40) TFSAs Are More Flexible—A Double-Edged Sword
(20:47) Conclusion

Monday Mar 10, 2025
Monday Mar 10, 2025
Our guest this episode is Robb Engen—creator of the Canadian personal finance blog “Boomer & Echo” and advice-only financial planner based in Lethbridge, AB.
In this podcast, Dave and Robb discuss navigating retirement and the world of advice-only financial planning—what it is, why it’s not as common in Canada and Robb’s unconventional career path in finance. Much of the conversation has Robb sharing his expertise on retirement planning, covering everything from when to take your CPP to safe withdrawal rates to planning for big expenses and much more.
Whether you’re nearing retirement or just curious about fee-only financial planning, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss!
Show Notes
(00:00:00) Intro & Disclaimer
(00:00:55) Intro to Robb Engen
(00:06:39) What is Advice-Only Financial Planning
(00:12:26) What Type of Clients Are Best for Advice-Only Planning
(00:17:09) Why Isn't Advice-Only Planning More Popular in Canada
(00:19:17) Upsizing in Retirement
(00:21:04) When Should You Take Your CPP?
(00:25:11) Spending in Retirement
(00:29:29) All-in-One ETFs
(00:30:56) Robo-Advisors Turning Into Speculative Investment Platforms
(00:35:01) Safe Withdrawal Rates in Retirement
(00:37:47) Planning for Large One-Time Expenses in Retirement
(00:42:57) Giving Kids Money for a Down Payment
(00:44:02) Housing Prices Are Unfair For The Younger Generation
(00:45:49) Postnups
(00:46:55) Options for Accessing Your Home Equity in Retirement
(00:50:43) Giving Money Away if You Have Enough for Retirement
(00:53:58) Life Insurance
(00:55:43) Grandparents Helping to Fund RESPs
(00:57:28) Robb’s Big Three Takeaways
(00:59:51) You Just Retired… Now What?
(01:02:40) Dave's Dad's "Solution" to Financial Planning
(01:03:46) Die With Zero
(01:04:48) Conclusion

Tuesday Feb 25, 2025
Tuesday Feb 25, 2025
Our guest this episode is none other than Arlene Dickinson—famed businesswoman, investor, author and the longest-serving Dragon on CBC’s "Dragons’ Den."
In this episode, Dave and Arlene reminisce about their time on "Dragons’ Den" together and chat about everything from Arlene’s early career struggles to the potential US tariffs to the current economic climate for Canadian entrepreneurs and much, much more.
Don’t miss this fantastic episode!
Show Notes
(00:00) Intro & Disclaimer
(00:55) Intro to Arlene Dickenson
(02:46) Dragons’ Den
(04:26) Handling Online Criticism
(08:21) Arlene’s Early Career Struggles
(16:13) How Did Arlene Become a Dragon?
(19:46) Reflecting on the Impact of Dragons’ Den
(22:14) Two Lessons Arlene Taught Dave
(24:24) The Time Arlene Accidentally Got Drunk on Dragons' Den
(25:53) The Current Economic Climate for Canadian Entrepreneurs
(30:03) Potential US Tariffs
(33:48) Younger Canadians Are Frustrated
(36:08) Taxes & Government Spending in Canada
(37:56) How Do We Build Up the Canadian Entrepreneur Ecosystem?
(42:46) The Impact of AI
(47:12) Arlene's Closing Message for the Audience

Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
We’re joined this episode by Dan Bortolotti—Portfolio Manager at PWL Capital, creator of the hugely popular “Canadian Couch Potato” blog, author of “Reboot Your Portfolio: 9 Steps to Successful Investing with ETFs” and co-host of the “Rational Reminder” podcast.
In this episode, Dan and Dave dive deep into index investing, covering everything from active vs. passive investing styles to tips for DIY investors, asset allocation strategies, the pros and cons of all-in-one ETFs in Canada and much more. There’s a lot to unpack, but Dan and Dave make it all easy to understand.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone serious about DIY investing—tune in now!
Show Notes
(00:00:00) Intro & Disclaimer
(00:00:55) Intro to Dan Bortolotti
(00:02:04) The Origins of the “Canadian Couch Potato”
(00:06:56) What is an Index Fund
(00:08:52) Why Don't Most Active Managers Outperform the Market?
(00:15:12) How Dave's Dad Can Beat Professional Money Managers
(00:16:57) Group Retirement Plans
(00:19:25) Mutual Fund Underperformance
(00:22:42) Should People Speculate with 5-10% of Their Portfolio?
(00:26:31) The Financial-Planning-First Model
(00:33:42) How to Construct An Index-Fund Portfolio
(00:35:52) Risk Tolerance and Asset Allocation
(00:42:50) When Stocks & Bonds Both Went Down
(00:44:56) What Goes Into a Financial Plan?
(00:46:34) Get Life Insurance!
(00:47:59) There is No "Optimal" Financial Plan
(00:49:52) When to Take CPP
(00:51:21) The Risks of Helping Kids/Grandkids with Down Payments
(00:53:52) All-in-One ETFs
(00:58:16) Withholding Taxes on US Stocks
(01:02:27) Online Investment Platform Recommendations
(01:04:26) Conclusion

Tuesday Jan 28, 2025
Tuesday Jan 28, 2025
Our guest this episode is Ron Butler—a 30-year veteran of the mortgage industry and owner of Butler Mortgage. Some of you may recognize Ron from his social media rants or his “Angry Mortgage Podcast” where he uses colourful language and profanity to express his opinions (and share his wisdom!) on the world of real estate and mortgages.
In this episode, Dave and Ron discuss all things real estate including the pros/cons of using a mortgage broker, where they think interest rates are headed, whether people should use fixed- or variable-rate mortgages and much, much more.
Enjoy this entertaining and insightful episode.
Show Notes
00:00 – Intro & Disclaimer
00:57 – Intro to Ron Butler
03:20 – Pros/Cons of Using a Mortgage Broker
05:29 – Canada vs. USA Use of Mortgage Brokers
08:19 – Where Ron Thinks Interest Rates Are Headed
09:47 – Divergence Between Haves vs. Have-Not
11:48 – Fixed vs. Variable Mortgage Rates
13:54 – Parents Helping with Down Payments
18:02 – The Financialization of Housing
20:07 – Where Are Housing Prices Headed?
25:51 – The Small-Condo Market
30:09 – 30-Year Amortizations
32:10 – High Transaction Costs in Real Estate
34:46 – Renovations
39:37 – Big vs. Small Homes
43:23 – High Housing Costs Causing People to Leave Canada
46:10 – The Housing-Affordability Crisis
51:42 – Rapid-Fire Questions
57:16 – An F-Bomb-Filled Ron Rant
59:03 – Conclusion

Tuesday Jan 14, 2025
Tuesday Jan 14, 2025
Our guest this episode is Richard Coffin—better known to many as "The Plain Bagel." Richard is a CFA and CFP professional working as a Portfolio Manager in Ottawa. He has nearly 1 million subscribers on his YouTube channel where he creates entertaining and educational videos on finance, investing and economics.
In this episode, Dave and Richard discuss the rise of "Finfluencers" in today’s social-media-driven world and explore the fascinating landscape of behavioural finance. They cover everything from the origins of “The Plain Bagel,” to the pros and cons of getting financial advice online, to the biases that affect us all and much, much more.
Enjoy this fantastic episode featuring two of Canada’s top financial educators.
Show Notes
00:00:00 – Intro & Disclaimer
00:00:55 – Intro to Richard Coffin
00:03:28 – Origin of “The Plain Bagel”
00:08:13 – Richard’s Work & Educational Background
00:12:13 – The Rise of Finfluencers
00:16:34 – The Laws Around Giving Financial Advice Online
00:20:14 – How to Evaluate Online Financial Advice
00:21:24 – Trusting Finfluencers More than Wall Street
00:25:20 – The “Beginner” Finfluencer
00:28:58 – Investing Courses
00:38:42 – Trustworthy Canadian Finfluencers
00:44:41 – It’s Easy to Fake Wealth Online
00:47:57 – YouTubers Being Paid to Promote Stocks
00:55:27 – Behavioural Finance & Loss Aversion
01:02:56 – Confirmation Bias
01:06:35 – The Skills Behind Creating Content People Enjoy Watching
01:08:46 – Recency Bias
01:13:41 – Framing Bias
01:19:02 – Conclusion

Tuesday Dec 17, 2024
Tuesday Dec 17, 2024
Our guest this episode is Barry Choi, the ultimate expert on all things credit card points and loyalty programs in Canada. You may also know him from his frequent TV appearances or his personal finance website www.moneywehave.com.
In this episode Dave asks Barry everything Canadians need to know about credit card points and loyalty programs including which programs offer the most lucrative sign-up bonuses, tips for how to maximize the value of your points, which card is best for travel and much, much more.
This is a highly informative episode and you’ll be sure to take away a few valuable tips by listening.
Show Notes
00:00 – Intro & Disclaimer
00:56 – Intro to Barry Choi
03:02 – Loyalty Programs and Data
06:35 – Learn a Few Programs Inside Out
08:51 – Transferring Points to Increase Value
10:47 – Credit Card Points as an Employee Benefit
12:04 – Tips to Maximize Points
14:39 – How to Optimize Points for Travel
17:12 – Which Credit Card is Right for You
18:56 – Sign-Up Bonuses
22:16 – Dave’s Reservations About Credit Cards
25:32 – High-Income Canadians with Credit-Card Balances
28:01 – Barry’s Spending
30:02 – When Barry Took His Family to Hong Kong
34:09 – American Express
37:37 – Dave Doesn't Use Airport Lounges
38:26 – Non-Point Benefits
41:20 – The Lifecycle of a Fintech Company
42:25 – Consumerism & Stuff
45:49 – Donating Loyalty Points
46:58 – Fraud with Loyalty Points
48:37 – Conclusion

Tuesday Dec 03, 2024
Tuesday Dec 03, 2024
Our guest this episode is Ben Felix—Chief Investment Officer at PWL Capital and co-host of “The Rational Reminder” podcast. You might also know him from his popular YouTube channel where he creates meticulously researched videos on investing, financial decision-making and living a good life (although you may not recognize his stunning new hairstyle!).
In this episode Dave and Ben dive deeply into the world of investing. They cover everything from active versus passive styles to why CPP is a one-of-a-kind asset to why people underperform so badly in mutual funds and much, much more.
This is a must-listen episode featuring two of Canada’s top financial educators.
Show Notes:
00:00:00 – Intro & Disclaimer
00:00:55 – Intro to Ben Felix
00:04:25 – Ben’s New Hair
00:05:50 – Why Is It So Difficult to Beat the Market?
00:08:02 – Why It's Hard for Active Managers to Consistently Outperform
00:11:42 – “Buy the Haystack” (Passive Investing)
00:13:55 – The Market is Forward Looking
00:17:45 – Why Dave & Ben Don't Listen to Market Forecasts
00:21:46 – Dave's Only Market-Timing Story (Gone Wrong)
00:25:22 – Performance Gaps for Individual vs. Fund Performance
00:29:55 – Lump Sum vs. Dollar-Cost Averaging
00:35:18 – Everyone's Risk Tolerance is Different
00:36:56 – Countries With High Economic Growth ≠ High Stock Returns
00:41:35 – Beware of High Growth Industries & Thematic ETFs
00:46:00 – The Difference Between Investment Planning & Financial Planning
00:51:20 – How Can Everyday Canadians Get Good Financial Advice?
00:55:44 – Trust is Key in Financial Planning
00:57:26 – Why a 2% Mutual Fund Fee Is So Costly
00:59:11 – Canadian Banks
01:01:19 – Keep it Simple! Complexity Underperforms
01:04:09 – Venture Capital
01:05:42 – Can the US Market Continue to Outperform?
01:13:36 – Robo-Advisors
01:17:44 – Would Ben Ever Be a Landlord?
01:20:00 – CPP – Four Reasons Why You Should Wait to Take It
01:26:11 – Conclusion

Tuesday Nov 19, 2024
Tuesday Nov 19, 2024
Our guest this episode is Jessica Moorhouse—a Canadian personal finance creator, host of the “More Money Podcast,” and soon-to-be-published author of the book “Everything but Money: The Hidden Barriers Between You and Financial Freedom.”
In this episode Dave and Jessica discuss how our emotions and past experiences affect our relationship with money including bad financial habits people learn from their parents, biases that get in our way, why the financial industry benefits from making it seem more complicated than it is and much, much more.
Don’t miss this engaging discussion with Jessica Moorhouse.
Show Notes00:00 – Introduction00:56 – Jessica's Background03:21 – How Jessica's Podcast Started05:51 – Jessica's Upcoming Book11:43 – Bad Money Habits We Learn From Our Parents15:34 – Money and Shame17:18 – How to Take Control of Your Relationship with Money19:07 – Status Quo Bias22:15 – Anyone Can Learn to be Good With Money24:33 – Overconfidence Bias in Young Men27:02 – Women and Investing29:02 – Emotions and Investing31:51 – Index Investing & Fintech33:51 – Focus on What You Can Control and Don't Give Up Hope38:10 – Living in Toronto40:37 – The Best Financial Educators Are Truly Trying to Help43:55 – Happiness and Financial Planning46:39 – COVID49:18 – Where to Get Jessica’s Book